Episode 47 - Rufus Scrimgeour

Episode 47 – Rufus Scrimgeour: Sophia for Minister!

Join hosts Aureo, Irvin, Sophia, and guest DJ (Denis James) as they discuss the short-lived and abrasive Minister for Magic: Rufus Scrimgeour.

In this episode:

  • The dangers of shallow bottoms
  • Rufus Scrimgeour, you had one job!
  • Is the wizarding world a democracy? Doubtful…
  • Scrimgeour lasted for seven Liz Trusses
  • We all become Minister of Magic and come up with the perfect Gryffindor plan
  • Scrimgeour is stubborn, even in the face of death
  • Best gossip is always served at the Three Broomsticks
  • All could be solved if Scrimgeour was better with people
  • As Minister, you need the tea!
  • Imagine Minister Mad-Eye Moody!

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More from our guest, DJ:

The pub’s jukebox: Ode to Scrimgeour by I Speak Tree

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booksandmagic
booksandmagic
9 days ago

Hi guys! Long time listener, first time commenter. A few thoughts:

  • You’re lucky to have no idea that “technical” governments exist, we’ve had so many here in Italy! Basically if the parliament votes for a “no faith” motion or there isn’t a majority in the parliament anymore, the current government falls and a new prime minister is appointed, usually someone with an expertise that is needed in that moment. The latest case was in 2021, when the old president of the ECB was chosen to deal with the economic situation caused by the pandemic. I imagine something similar happened with Fudge: the Wizengamot voted to oust him and chose Scrimgeour as new Minister for Magic given the urgency of the situation and his expertise in fighting Dark wizards (which wasn’t that useful, honestly).
  • Regarding how Scrimgeour dealt with Dumbledore’s will, I really felt like he wanted to coordinate the war effort and help Harry. However he had already ruined that relationship and so found himself unable to gain Harry’s trust.

Generally, Scrimgeour seems to me like someone completely devoted to his duty, even to the point of mistreating people (and throwing random wizards into Azkaban).

AbsentMindedRavenD
AbsentMindedRaven
Reply to  booksandmagic
22 hours ago

Well said!

If the ministry really wanted to regain Harry’s trust, asking him to do anything should have been completely off the table. When you’ve wronged someone, you don’t make it better by going “hey, can you do me a solid?”

AlmostASquib
AlmostASquib
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3 days ago

I believe Scrimgeour could have been a decent politician than he turned out be, if he were to be the minister during peace time. Scrimgeour was just a military leader, with almost Percy like reverence for the system. He never got a chance to learn the ways of a ‘politician’, being appointed at the worst possible time. It must’ve been easier to manage the auror department with his attitude and approach, as they only allow really competent wizards there. But most of the ministry seems to be riddled with incompetent people who need WWW products to protect their own skins. So it seems like a smart decision to ask people to cast protective charms themselves, it literally saved ministry’s face. His task as a minister thus was to keep the sinking ship afloat while fighting the dark wizards. No wonder he was locked up in his office, he might be having a mental breakdown! Maybe Fudge was partly responsible for letting in the incompetent staff, I imagine a military leader like Scrimgeour would implement a stricter eligibility criteria for the ministry. All he has to do is campaign to ‘make ministry great again’ and I can see people voting for him! 🤡 I am not a Scrimgeour fan, but your excellent discussion made me think! Thank you for another great episode!

AbsentMindedRavenD
AbsentMindedRaven
21 hours ago

Scrimgeour gives big “Scar” energy, especially when he’s telling the wizarding public to Be Prepared…

He’s a classic tragic figure: the very traits that were (probably) why he was chosen as minister – inflexible, commanding, ruthless – actually make him terrible at the job.

Umbridge probably got her sob-story in first (after being run out of Hogwarts in ignominy), which would make her ministry colleagues view any later complaints as attempts to smear her good character.

The problem with collective action is that (per descriptions of Voldemort’s previous reign-of-terror) no-one knows whether they can trust anyone else. There’s polyjuice. There’s the imperius. There are straight-up traitors.

For example, do we know that Stan Shunpike had to be imperiused? (As far as I recall, it’s only Harry’s assumption). Disaffected youths have been radicalised before.

While Harry might have been more amenable had he been pitched “training with the aurors” (rather than “photo ops”), I doubt Dumbledore would have been interested. Dumbledore doesn’t bother with training Harry magically to face Voldemort (Harry’s too far behind); he’s focused on preparing Harry emotionally.