Join hosts Ev and Irvin, and our special guests Megs and Nathan (Care of Magical Shippers) as they discuss Hermione’s love life in this episode all about shipping.
In this episode:
- How do you deepen a kiss?
- If Hogwarts had Chess Club, Ron/Hermione would’ve happened way sooner
- One of our guests writes “the finest erotica”
- You should write fanfiction in protest of Cursed Child
- Is there a sign-up sheet for the Room of Requirement?
- Hermione doing international stuff
- A lot of potential for the use of trick wands
- Hermione really really likes Quidditch players
- Oh, we’re calling it “recognition” now!
- We ship the Whomping Granger
Resources:
- Who Does Hermione Love? by Turambar
- The Battle in Hermione’s Heart – Viktor or Ron? by Segonku
- Fanfic: Just a Harmless Joke by CrazyGirl47
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Pub’s Jukebox:
Granger Danger by A Very Potter Musical Cast
I Found A Loophole by The Whomping Willows
Hermione could be said to have a parasocial crush on Lockhart. Like most early crushes, it’s based more on who we think a person is than who they actually are.
Interesting that in Chamber, both Harry and Hermione are taken in by the book(s) of a handsome older man…
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I had suspicions of the canon pairings fairly early (Ginny running, crying, after the train in book 1 pinged my trope senses), but I enjoy fanfiction’s ability to explore other possibilities. Some pairings are definitely not for me (occasionally veering into “ew, why would you even think that?!”), but I don’t want to yuk anyone’s legal and consensual yum.
Despite the “enemies-to-lovers” trope, I can only believe Drarry as one-sided: someone had to be telling Dobby how great Harry was, and it wasn’t Lucius or Narcissa.
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A good mindset about relationships is that “there is NO Right Person™”. Couples that work do so because they cooperate more than compete; love is a battlefield, but you’re on the same side.
Oh. My. God. Mind blown.
Re: Drarry – I think I’m in agreement with you, it was never really my jam. I think enemies to lovers works best when both parties are somewhat combative and enjoy that sparring aspect, and Harry never struck me as the type – hence why he usually dismisses Draco’s taunts rather than getting down in the gutter with him. Draco and Hermione, on the other hand, both seem to like that bickering much more (and so does Ron – Ron/Draco, anyone?)
Agreed.
The “conflict styles” of the characters can be a good indication of compatability:
Besides polyjuice’s Power Perversion Potential (thanks, tvtropes!), people also speculate that parseltongue is good for more than just charming snakes.
My headcanon is that polyjuice (or variants of it) make it a lot easier for magical folk to explore/change their gender identity.
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I find it interesting that you seem in agreement about Hermione being the most accepting of a turncoat/spy-Draco. In books 6 and 7, Harry is the one shown to be sympathetic to Draco (even though he doesn’t like or trust him). He does feel sorry when he finds Draco weeping in the bathroom. It’s his call to rescue them from the fiendfyre.
Part of it is probably that Harry sees Draco as more of a dangerous nuisance, especially compared to Snape, Umbridge, or Voldemort. He’s better than Ron and Hermione at brushing off Draco’s taunts. But more significantly, he’s comparing Draco to Dudley: he sees it’s possible to move beyond your parents’ prejudices, and the wake-up call of trauma to a spoiled bully.
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Everyone has their own version of a character (even if they’re only subtly different). The author may consider Draco irredeemable because of additional details that don’t appear in the text, and are therefore irrelevant.
It’s fair to dismiss Dramione because Draco would never with a muggleborn, but not because Draco’s middle name is “Engelbert” and Hermione’s mother is a big Humperdink fan and it would just be too wierd.
On the topic of accepting turncoat Draco – I tend to use their attitudes towards Snape as a proxy for how well they’d do with someone they disliked personally put had allegedly joined their side. Hermione is much better at grudgingly accepting allies, whereas with Harry it’s much more a question of whether he likes a person or not. If Draco turned coat, I think Harry would accept that he’d switched sides and perhaps even pity him, but would still want nothing to do with him.
Oh, I agree, none of them are ever likely to invite Draco out for a butterbeer. I rather like the epilogue’s distant nod as an indication of how they’d treat “good” Draco.
Snape/Draco is a good comparison in general, but there are some important make-or-break specifics. Firstly that Draco is an equal (fellow student) rather than someone in authority over them (and as discussed recently, they resent that authority). Secondly, none of them are convinced about Snape’s loyalties, whereas they’d (presumably) know the reasons for Draco to be on their side.